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For my 2016 A to Z theme I used a meme that I ran across on the blog of Bridget Straub who first saw it on the blog of Paula Acton. This meme is a natural for me to use on my memoir blog. It's an A to Z concept and it's about me. No research and nothing complicated. I'm given twenty six questions or topics to discuss that are about me.

In April I kept my posts short and uncomplicated. In the midst of it all you might learn a few things about me that you didn't previously know.

Saturday, February 21, 2015

From the Cut Out Bins: Frank Sinatra

Nothing But the Best (album)
Nothing But the Best (album) (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

The following is my response to Stephen T. McCarthy at Battle of the Bands.

      My parents had a nice little collection of albums prior to the time I started accumulating my own collection.  When I say little, I'm guessing that they might have had anywhere from 100 to 200 vinyl LP's at any given time.  The life of an album was probably relatively short-lived in our household because to be honest they didn't take the best of care of their records.

        When it came to buying records my father would go to record stores in search of very specific types of albums--invariably any sort of album that had to do with circus, carnival, or something that he construed to have something to do with show business.  He rarely looked for the typical pop albums as far as I can recall and for his specialty albums he would pay the market retail prices.

        On the other hand, my mother usually bought pop albums, hit compilations, or a variety of other albums that she found in the bargain priced bins in places like the supermarket or variety stores.  There were albums by artists such as Francis Bay Orchestra, Perez Prado, Ray Coniff, and many others whose albums somehow wound up being sold at discounted prices.  That's where she must have gotten the Frank Sinatra albums we had in the house prior to 1966.

         Looking on the internet now I can't seem to find any albums with all the songs as I remember them.  I find all the songs I remember, but not on the same album.  If I'm remembering correctly there was one album that consisted of Sinatra's older material such as "That Old Feeling", "Paradise", "The Nearness of You", "Laura" and some others.  Then there was the lusher material from the 50's such as "I Can't Get Started", "Moonlight in Vermont", "Try a Little Tenderness", "I Cover the Waterfront", and others that came from the Billy May/Nelson Riddle albums.  

          I'm thinking that there were some compilations that were available then that are not available now.   On the other hand my memory could be just totally faulty about this, but I'm not positive about this.  The way I played those albums the song line-ups should be etched in my memory, but then that was 50 years ago and a lot of memory could be blended in with all the other albums between then and now.

          Seriously though I played the heck out of those Sinatra albums in my junior high school days. I probably listened to them more than my mother did.  In quiet times when I was alone and in a contemplative mood I'd put on one of the Sinatra albums and immerse myself in the words and music.  Sometimes I'd concoct secret agent movies in my head using the songs in the imaginary soundtrack.  Some of those plots I wrote down and probably still have them somewhere in my old papers.

           At this time I was also listening to a lot of Tijuana Brass, Beach Boys, and Jan & Dean so to lump Sinatra into my adolescent listening schedule was saying a lot about the nature of the guys music.   For me a lot had to do with Sinatra's phrasing.  He sang lyrics with such style that it was almost like a melodic conversation.   He was telling me something in song and waiting for my response.  The sound of the orchestral arrangements didn't hurt either.  I'd always had an appreciation for good arrangements and Sinatra had some of the best behind his vocals.

          No, I can't ever knock Sinatra because he kept me company and enchanted me for many hours of my younger days.   Sinatra was like a cool uncle who made movies that I liked.  I still have a distant memory of going to the theater when I was about 6 years old to see Sinatra's film The Joker Is Wild and hearing the beautiful song "All the Way".  That was one of my favorite songs when I was a kid and it's always haunted me.  That movie made me melancholy whenever I thought back on it.  And I thought Sinatra was the best--even better than Elvis who was all the rage at the time but didn't have the cool urban hip of Sinatra.

        I wish I could find those Sinatra albums that my mother had--the same songs in the same order. I probably have all the songs in the compilations that I currently have in my CD collection, but I want to go back and have that same exact listening experience.   Then again, if I heard it would I remember?

         Did you appreciate Frank Sinatra when you were a kid?   Do you have a favorite Sinatra film?  What music from childhood haunts you the most?

16 comments:

  1. My mom was so anti-music that my dad had to keep his stereo and records in an outbuilding and listen to them there. I would keep him company and I loved his Ray Conniff Singers records. He also had Herb Alpert ones, and apparently everyone got the hugest kick out of me singing along to Los Indios Tabajaras, because I was like 2 years old and they were singing in Spanish. I remember hearing Dean Martin and some Sinatra at my uncle's house (he repaired & sold TVs and stereos), but I was never really a Frank fan b/c he was such a jerk in real life. I liked his movie 'on the town' but really I watched it for Gene Kelly.

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  2. This coming Friday my Tossing It Out
    post will be about why some people don't like or hate music. I hope you'll tell me more about your mother's anti-music feelings then or now. This is something I don't understand when I hear it said.

    I usually don't keep up with artists' private lives to much and tend to forget what I do hear so what they do beyond their crafts usually does not influence my feelings toward what they produce. If I like it then that's all I need. Someone can always come up with something bad to say about anyone and that's what the tabloids and news rags specialize in.

    Lee

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  3. BOIDMAN LEE ~
    I had a similar thing happen to me just in the last week or two. I was looking at the song listing on an old album I had in my teens and it wasn't quite like I remembered it. There were a couple songs I thought FOR SURE were on that album back when I owned it, but they aren't there now. And there were one or two songs on it that I didn't even remember.

    History just refuses to stay put!

    I don't really hate Sinatra. I LOVE his version of 'We'll Be Together Again'. (Remember, I put his recording up against Ray Charles', and to this day that was the hardest decision I ever had to make in casting a BOTB vote. I almost just flipped a coin.)

    There are a handful of other Sinatra recordings I like really well. But overall, I do think he was tremendously overrated. Not bad, just overrated. My Ma was a HUGE Sinatra fan. I think I'm more like my Pa was: Some good, plenty so-so. Other than a few exceptions, I'm really not a big fan of that "crooner" type of music.

    >>... Did you appreciate Frank Sinatra when you were a kid?

    Not at all. When I was a kid I didn't appreciate ANY music that wasn't Rock and didn't include electric guitar. (Well, that's not entirely true. I did like Roger Miller and some Louis Prima and Roy Rogers. But that's about it. Didn't even like Glenn Miller, who today is my very favorite!)

    >>... Do you have a favorite Sinatra film?

    Yeah. I would say 'GUYS AND DOLLS', followed by 'From Here To Eternity' (although Frank's not the main draw for me in that latter one).

    >>... What music from childhood haunts you the most?

    Ooh! That's a tough question because there's quite a bit. I'll have to give that one some serious thought.

    ~ D-FensDogg
    'Loyal American Underground'

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    1. In my opinion the term "overrated" is one of the most misused in the English language. I don't think there needs to be a rating system for opinions and preferences. In most cases I might conjecture that saying something that is popular among many is overrated is merely a way of throwing down the gauntlet to challenge the opinions of others. But it's just a word and to me "overrated" is a word that is highly overrated by many depending on what side they want to argue.

      Sinatra had a huge fan base and that says a lot. If anyone is doing any rating system then I'd want to know on what that rating system is based and already knowing the answer to that, I'd say the rating system does not make one opinion more valid than another. And often I'm not sure the rating for a music artist has that much to do with the actual talent involved. Even when reasonable arguments are given ( tone, phrasing, delivery, interpretation, or whatever) even those are mostly a matter of opinion.

      Once again for me it comes around to why exactly people like what they like and does it matter that they like it. I'll be addressing this issue in a somewhat minor way in my Friday post at Tossing It Out. Kind of sort of, but not precisely.

      Lee

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    2. LEE ~
      I wrote a full reply to your response to me here in this comment section but I've decided not to post it. There's no real point in continuing the discussion about Frank Sinatra, and I don't want to say something that might cause a greater rift and which I might regret later.

      So, moving away from this, I will simply leave you with something you might find interesting (if you've not encountered it before)...

      There's a video series titled 'CLASSIC ALBUMS', which examines the making of certain LPs that are well known and loved by many. I've seen the one (on DVD) about the founding of The Doors and the recording of their debut album. And I've seen part of the one about the making of the 'Who's Next' album. I think they're all about one hour long.

      Below is a link to a section in 'THE DOORS' Classic Albums documentary that you might like. If you don't want to watch this entire segment, you can fast-forward to the 6:33 mark in THIS video which discusses Jim Morrison's love of Frank Sinatra's music.

      OK, that's it. Color me "Done" here.

      ~ D-FensDogg
      'Loyal American Underground'

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    3. I've added some of those "Classic Albums" DVD's to my Netflix queue as they sound interesting. I listened to a lot of the Doors videos, but I don't like watching these on the computer. Still I watched the entire one you linked to and part of the next. Very interesting stuff. Thanks for directing me to this series.

      Lee

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  4. Oh, yeah. My folks never had records. But we always watched any Frank Sinatra or Dean Martin movie or show that came on. When I was about 9 they bought me a small portable stereo turntable. We bought Flaming Star by Elvis and Glenn Campbell greatest hits at the drug store. Along the way mother ordered country compilations off of TV, an huge Elvis set and a set that had all the greatest hits of every decade from the 20's to the 70's. And we bought a Frank Sinatra Christmas album that makes Christmas feel like Christmas to me. Real hymns sung by the master. This or radio was what I listened too growing up. All I listened to until Jr. High. Then I started buying some singles with my allowance. First album I ever bought myself was the Partridge Family. LOL Then in high school mom made my dreams come true and bought me an awesome stereo system from Sears and Roebuck that had seperate speakers, would play records or eight tracks and radio. Could record from any source. Then when I started working my senior year, I started buying singles like crazy. Accumulated several hundred in just a few years. There were very few artists I liked enough to listen to a whole album of.

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    1. Your stereo set-up sounds like a dream for me. The one that my mother bought, but I mostly used was pretty decent--it was the turntable and speakers only and believe me, I got a lot of use out of that thing. Like you, once I started working and had my own money I started buying a lot of music though I was an album person. I loved listening to albums from start to finish.

      Lee

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  5. No I didn't appreciate Sinatra when I was young, but I liked him okay in some of the old movies: Guys and Dolls, for instance. I liked him as a skinny kid sailor, too. But for coolness, I liked Bobby Darin, who may have patterned his style on Sinatra . . .BTW we recently gave two-thirds of our LP collection to our kids, and about fifty to the local donation store. We had no Sinatra in the collection. But vinyl is back in vogue with the younger crowd. Hubs and his brother collected most of them, nearly 400 I'd estimate.

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    1. I sold off most of my LP collection recently and now have a tinge of regret about doing it. But it's just stuff that collects dust so I'm pretty better having made the space and getting the extra $200 I got from the sale.

      I'd say Darin definitely modeled himself after Sinatra as did a great many male singers who had legions of adoring female fans.

      Lee

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  6. My mom loved Sinatra so I heard a lot of his music growing up, but I'm not sure I appreciated it. During the last week of her life, when she was mostly unresponsive, I kept music playing softly in her bedroom, including a lot of his. The one that broke my heart was Softly As I Leave You.

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  7. That would be a very poignant song to hear at a time like that.

    Lee

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  8. Sorry to hear you sold off your LP collection, Lee. I've been building mine back up. "In the Wee Small Hours" would like be my pick.

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    1. Well, I'm sorry in part, but then I'm keep thinking about things I want to get rid of. It's that conundrum of hanging onto stuff that we just leave behind or enjoying life unencumbered by possessions. There is something to be said for both. My Sinatra favorite remains Watertown, but I also like the album with "It Was a Very Good Year" on it.

      Lee

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